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Author Topic: Do firmware updates affect apps/data?  (Read 5716 times)
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« on: October 22, 2010, 07:05:58 AM »

Just wondering if firmware updates, especially major ones like froyo, will affect any apps or data on the device?  I don't mind having to back up data, but reinstalling all my apps would be a pain.

Also, regarding backing up... has anyone tested backing up under eclair and restoring under froyo?

Finally, are all apps forwards compatible with froyo? (ie is froyo backwards compatible with all apps?)  Is any behaviour likely to change significantly?
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2010, 06:45:24 PM »

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I have the option to upgrade to froyo with kies but i didnt because im not sure about a couple of things:
1. I have rooted my sgs, is it going to be a problem? also I used the leg fix .
Am I supposed to undo the root and leg fix before upgrading?
2. After I rooted the phone i pushed hebrew fonts into it. are they going to disapear?
3. If the root will disapear is there another root app for sgs with froyo?
4. Can I backup tha eclaire on my device so if something will go wrong I could just restore it ?

thanks everyone !!!
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2010, 11:28:59 PM »

Hi
I have the option to upgrade to froyo with kies but i didnt because im not sure about a couple of things:
1. I have rooted my sgs, is it going to be a problem? also I used the leg fix .
Am I supposed to undo the root and leg fix before upgrading?
2. After I rooted the phone i pushed hebrew fonts into it. are they going to disapear?
3. If the root will disapear is there another root app for sgs with froyo?
4. Can I backup tha eclaire on my device so if something will go wrong I could just restore it ?
thanks everyone !!!
1. I don't think you can get your phone updated untill you unroot your phone.
2. I'm sure there are lots of 3rd party Hebrew font programs are available in market place...so why worry?
3. You have to make sure unroot it before you get updated.  It's not something that would disappear.
4. sync your stuffs to "appbrain".  in that way, you can always re-install it if something happens.
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2010, 11:40:40 PM »

Just wondering if firmware updates, especially major ones like froyo, will affect any apps or data on the device?  I don't mind having to back up data, but reinstalling all my apps would be a pain.

Also, regarding backing up... has anyone tested backing up under eclair and restoring under froyo?

Finally, are all apps forwards compatible with froyo? (ie is froyo backwards compatible with all apps?)  Is any behaviour likely to change significantly?
You do need a factory reset after froyo updated..... if you want your galaxy s to work correctly.  And yes....reinstalling apps would be a pain.  Backing up under eclair is perfectly fine, and that's what you should do....
and, some but not all apps are compatible with froyo.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 01:01:28 AM »

Hi
I have the option to upgrade to froyo with kies but i didnt because im not sure about a couple of things:
1. I have rooted my sgs, is it going to be a problem? also I used the leg fix .
Am I supposed to undo the root and leg fix before upgrading?
2. After I rooted the phone i pushed hebrew fonts into it. are they going to disapear?
3. If the root will disapear is there another root app for sgs with froyo?
4. Can I backup tha eclaire on my device so if something will go wrong I could just restore it ?

thanks everyone !!!


Are you sure it's Froyo? I got an eclair update. It erased everything. I've hear that the Froyo upgrade does not. The good thing is if you *have * to reinstall stuff, it's tracked in Market so it's not too bad unless you have hundreds of apps as some people seem to Big Smile
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2010, 01:32:20 AM »

Thanks for your answers, I really appreciate it   Cool

Apologies if I am being a bit slow understanding this, but I am still not quite clear...

You do need a factory reset after froyo updated..... if you want your galaxy s to work correctly.

I have known factory resets that remove everything except firmware, and others that leave data (& sometimes apps) in memory, due to different types of ROM/RAM in different embedded devices.

I also contacted Samsung about the GPS issue and was advised to reset the phone, but they suggested the apps/data would be unaffected (not that I trust technical support to actually know what they are talking about).

Hence I still don't know whether the froyo update (and necessary factory reset) will remove all my apps.

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And yes....reinstalling apps would be a pain.

Would be, or WILL be?

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Backing up under eclair is perfectly fine, and that's what you should do....

Does the backup process backup apps as well as data?  How do I perform this backup?

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and, some but not all apps are compatible with froyo.

Any way of knowing in advance what is likely to stop working?

Are you sure it's Froyo? I got an eclair update. It erased everything. I've hear that the Froyo upgrade does not.

I have heard this as well, perhaps it depends if you are installing the official update or a leaked/cooked ROM?

I just want to know about the official froyo at this stage.  Is there anyone who has done it who can describe the entire process and confirm yes or no?

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The good thing is if you *have * to reinstall stuff, it's tracked in Market so it's not too bad unless you have hundreds of apps as some people seem to Big Smile

What about apps not installed via Market?  ie .apk's transferred from PC, or via the browser?

I have been using my SGS for development work as well, so I have apps pushed through 'adb'. What happens to these?

Thanks in advance...
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 06:29:01 AM »

Just backup all your program and yes also the non market ones with appbrain.
Also you could just copy your whole phone to your pc and when reinstalling apps just throw the folders back in with your data. How hard could that be?
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2010, 03:36:05 PM »

About just mirroring the device on your PC, I tried a verison of that by installing apps on SDCards and swapping the SD cards. More painful than just re-installing but that was WINMO and maybe it's better on Android.
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2010, 04:44:16 PM »

About just mirroring the device on your PC, I tried a verison of that by installing apps on SDCards and swapping the SD cards. More painful than just re-installing but that was WINMO and maybe it's better on Android.

Doubt it's any better on Android.  I was just ignoring his idea, seems he didn't even read the questions...

Figuring my questions might be be better asked on xda, I thought a device specific forum might have more info.  Undecided
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2010, 06:20:30 PM »

XDA does have an SGS specific forum.
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