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Author Topic: saszeb, ironsingh, help with ROOTING TECHNICALTIES  (Read 2359 times)
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« on: September 09, 2011, 08:11:24 AM »

HI, i'm new to flashing roms and have a few burning queries;
(anyway im on f1 gs2 v6, and clarifying instructions to flash galnet miui )

1.) Does a ROM operate with only specific kernels?
When we specify ROMS, do they include the specific kernels, bootloaders(or do they work with varying kernels/bootloaders)? If not, what they include?

2.) Is it okay to flash any kernel over existing ones? Will there be compaitability issues?
Does the same apply to bootloaders, basebands?

I would greatly appreciate efforts to clarify similar mattters, thank you for your time and patience
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2011, 02:32:07 PM »

HI, i'm new to flashing roms and have a few burning queries;
(anyway im on f1 gs2 v6, and clarifying instructions to flash galnet miui )

1.) Does a ROM operate with only specific kernels?
When we specify ROMS, do they include the specific kernels, bootloaders(or do they work with varying kernels/bootloaders)? If not, what they include?

2.) Is it okay to flash any kernel over existing ones? Will there be compaitability issues?
Does the same apply to bootloaders, basebands?

I would greatly appreciate efforts to clarify similar mattters, thank you for your time and patience

1. No. A ROM has one kernel called stock kernel. This kernel is bundled into the ROM. There are several kernels like Speedmod, CF, Semaphore, Talon, Tegrak, Midnight, Galaxian, Dark Core, Damian's, etc. Each kernel can work with stock/custom Gingerbread ROMs.
2. Yes. You can flash it using Odin or Heimdall or SGS Kernel Flasher.
 It can be  depending on the type (EXT2, EXT4, RFS) of the filesystem.
 Bootloaders are ROM related, not kernel related things.

"ROM - Android Image. A shortening of the term "ROM image". The ROM (Read-Only Memory) image is at least a full install of the OS framework, and may or may not include a Kernel or Recovery as well. Official or "stock" ROMs include all three frameworks (OS, Kernel, and Recovery), as well as apps and services pre-installed, including those from both the device manufacturer and cellular service carrier."

"Kernel - Framework. Specifically, it is a bridge between the applications in an operating system and the processing components of the hardware. In short, it connects the software to the hardware."

"Modem - or Baseband. The parts of a firmware that allow communication between the operating system, the telecommunication hardware, and a mobile network. Some modems give good battery life, some good signal, some neither. It's the drivers package that is responsible for GPRS, 3G/E/H, WIFI, GPS and Bluetooth."
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SGS_GTI9000 Firmware: Android 4.0.3  Modem: XXJVT  Kernel: Stock
OC/UV:no.
ROM: ICS
Launcher: ICS.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2011, 08:16:30 PM »

Hi, thanks for your efforts,  Your post has been very enlightening... If you would, i have more questions..
3.) So how do we change the baseband versions? Is it through flashing through odin/hemidall?
4.) How do we know which bootloader we are using? Bootloaders are ROM related, does it mean that a ROM has a unique bootloader?
5.) And how does repartitioning affect our phone? What does it do actually? Does it delete the phone data?

After all that;

5.) What do we look out for before flashing any ROM? The bootloader, kernel, etc etc?
Am i right that so long as our phones are rooted and backed-up, we can just flash from one ROM to another,
simply by installing the appropriate kernels and then flashing from SD card?
6.) Do the different recovery "methods"(CWM 3.0.0.5, CwM Dark core Recovery v3.0.2.8x)  differ greatly?
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2011, 03:38:25 AM »

3. Modems (basebands) can be changed by flashing in CWM (ClockWorkMod) recovery.
4. The most ROM have bootloaders.
   When you download a ROM and then click on PDA.tar file, you'll see some files. Hier you should see "boot.bin" and "Sbl.bin". If there are, the ROM contains the bootloader.
or...
  When you have flashed a ROM and booted first and there are colours problem on the screen, you may have a wrong bootloader. It happens, you are on Froyo and flash a Gingerbread ROM that hasn't bootloader.
5. Repartition resizes the whole partition. Most of cases there is no need to tick "repartition" and use any PIT.
PIT (partition Information Table) shows, where to load the bootloader.
When you flash a ROM your data will be wiped, therefore you should use Titanium Backup (Pro).

5. You should follow the steps and fulfil the pre-requirements:
   - your phone has to be rooted.
   - your phone needs to be SIM unlocked.
   - YOU CAN/MUST USE THE 3 BUTTON COMBO!!
6. Not really.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2011, 10:59:34 AM »

one last question...
so im on ficeto F1 GS2 V6, jvp..
to get galnet miui rc3 i'll just have to flash the relevant bootloaders and kernels followed by the rom file itself?
during back-up with titanium backup, does backing up system files corrupt the future ROM?

ive been reading on this for weeks! but too afraid to try. really appreciate if u can help!
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 12:09:25 PM »

No.
Hier is a guide.
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