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Author Topic: What's the maximum size external SD card I can use for the Captivate?  (Read 30654 times)
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« on: February 27, 2011, 03:09:58 PM »

Hi everybody - just a question about the Captivate.

I was under the impression that the Captivate supported up to a 16GB micro-sd card. However I was I just browsing the samsung.ca site and for the specs they say:

"External Memory (MicroSD up to 32 GB) Supported"

Can anybody confirm whether it's 16 or 32?
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2011, 03:42:31 PM »

32GB is supported but you will need a Class 8 for it to be fast.

anything lower and your phone will crawl around.

I would rather go for a 16GB class 6 it's cheaper and it's relatively fast.

Although I never really used th External Card I never filled my 8 GB.

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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2011, 03:52:39 PM »

Although I never really used th External Card I never filled my 8 GB.

Thanks for the advice on that.

Quick question for you - were you ever able to move apps to the "internal SD card". Whenever I try it I get the message "Failed to move application. Not enough memory".

So I'm assuming that means either a) I have an actual problem or b) You can't move apps to the internal SD card... only the external SD card.

It's actually the only reason I want to buy an external card right now.. so I can answer this question for myself because I can't figure it out from online reading. Everybody already has an external card and thus can't give me a yes or no answer. Happy
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2011, 05:26:31 PM »

From the icon it looks like an external card and when I look on my external card the applications are in the .android secure (or something like that) on my SD card. You don't really have any control over where that stuff goes. Perhaps if there was no external card slot, Android would move stuff to the internal card.

I have an 8 gig card and have used up 5 because I don't move media onto my internal storage, just in case I have to do a reset. Once programmers get used to the idea of using the external storage you might find the need for a bigger card.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2011, 07:22:14 PM »

You don't really have any control over where that stuff goes. Perhaps if there was no external card slot, Android would move stuff to the internal card.

Hi Casz,

I guess that is my exact question right there for which I can find no answer. I have no external card - yet Android will NOT move it to the internal SD card. I get the error that I mentioned above. So one of two things is happening:

1) Android is supposed to move apps to the internal card if no external exists and thus something is wrong on MY phone

OR

2) The error I'm getting is normal because Android can not (and is not supposed to be able to) move apps to the internal card.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 01:41:53 AM »

RedWolf Yes I was able to.

What Version are you running.

AFAIK Eclairs is buggy on the issue and the only version it worked well with was JPU+.

type *#1234# in the dialer tell me what you see.

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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 09:26:10 AM »

AFAIK Eclairs is buggy on the issue and the only version it worked well with was JPU+.

type *#1234# in the dialer tell me what you see.

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Should be on 2.2

After typing the number command you gave me it returns:

PDA: I896UXJL1

Phone: I896UXJL1

CSCL I896RWCJL1

Build Info: 2010.12

How does the "move to sd card" functionality know whether to move to the internal sd or the external sd? Does it assume external if you have one and internal if you don't?
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2011, 10:10:19 AM »

Yeah you are on Froyo.

It doesn't move to external because then it would need a way to deal with the software when the Memory card is removed.

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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2011, 10:19:27 AM »

Yeah you are on Froyo.

It doesn't move to external because then it would need a way to deal with the software when the Memory card is removed.

Oh... so "move to sd card" was never meant to move to an external sd card. It ONLY moves to the internal sd card.

Maybe I've found a reason to do the factory reset we discussed the other day. Happy (I've already tried formatting the internal SD card numerous times)
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 12:06:17 PM »

It doesn't move to external because then it would need a way to deal with the software when the Memory card is removed.


Are you sure about this? From what I've been reading I get the impression it IS supposed to move to the external SD card.

For example the last post in the below thread says that.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856295
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2011, 01:34:27 PM »

I am on the Nexus S I get that error "Not Enough Memory"

As you may know Nexus S doesn't have an option for External Memory.

Now, I base my claim that it uses the main memory on the fact that when I had my SGS I used App2SD but my External SD card didn't have any file to indicate that the app was moved to the SD Card.

On the contrary I found them in the Main Drive.

Same thing on the Nexus. Plus there is more than one App2SD on market, Check what the one you are using is doing.

I use app2SD without any problems, there is the occasional "Not Enough Memory" All I do is try again and it works.

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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2011, 05:17:46 PM »

In my experience all of those "move to sd card" apps are mostly just wrappers to the built in API that 2.2 provides. App2SD for example shows you exactly the same interface to move the app as the built in functionality when you go to "manage applications". (Either way both methods throw exactly the same error) and see the "move to SD card" button.

I installed App2SD again and looked at it very closely... the top menu shows three sections:

On Phone (movable apps located on the phone)
On SD (movable apps on the SD card)
Phone Only (apps that cannot be moved)

The interesting part is that the "On SD" section shows the current size of the SD card and sure enough it's referring to my "internal SD card" - which seems to indicate you're correct and that it should work even though I have no external card.

Wierd.

I don't even have any particular reason for wanting to do this right now... I just sort of want it to work if it should because I'm odd like that. Happy
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2011, 09:19:43 PM »

How are you moving stuff to the SD? I just used settings>applications then move to SD. It didn't give me any options after that and moved my stuff to the external card. It didn't really make sense but I didn't see any options and I think angry birds just installed that way by default.
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2011, 10:24:25 PM »

I've tried using  App2SD but I've also done the exact same thing as you. Settings --> Applications--> Manage Applications (select an app) --> Move to SD card. Both methods throw the same error. (I suspect that the App2SD just uses the built in functionality because the interface is identical)

So you're saying now that it goes to the EXTERNAL SD? IronSingh says it goes to the Internal SD card.

Do we have our terminology confused?

In my mind there are three types of memory in the captivate:

Internal Memory (basically the system partition)
Internal SD (essentially a logical partition of the built in memory)
External SD (an optional inserted micro SD card which I do not currently have)

If as IronSingh says "move to SD" should go to the Internal SD memory than it means I have a problem with my phone. If as you say it goes to the external SD then the error I'm getting is understandable and normal because I don't have an external SD card.

See the confusion? Happy
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2011, 11:07:29 PM »

It seems this subject requires more attention.

I will try and figure out more about this issue.

As far as I can tell Apps are moved to the Internal SD.

RedWolf your analogy is correct

Internal Memory (basically the system partition)
Internal SD (essentially a logical partition of the built in memory)
External SD (an optional inserted micro SD card which I do not currently have)

That is how it is.

I will inquire further in the issue, for now though..

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